Dear Cot team, when are you planning to release version 8.5.12

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  • COT, You are cause panic here. can we have some reply on this trial. Its far overdue. Please!
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  • We are working on the release. A subset of the features included in the release are the following:

    1. Modal forms (Touch UI).
    2. Next generation user interface (Touch UI).
    3. Support for SaaS mode (SharePoint, DotNetNuke).
    4. OAuth integration (Google, Facebook, Windows Live, SharePoint)
    5. "Data Island" feature allows creation of custom pages that display data from controllers. 

    More details will be coming soon. 
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  • Hello,

    As usual you keep deviating and delaying from your published roadmap.

    You have mentioned on your website that we can sponsor some feature. What will be cost for sponsoring and expediting Inline Editing and Import (TouchUI).

    Guys, anyone there who would like to crowdfund this and get these two things expedited.

    Thanks,
    Rahul Jain
    • I don't think the issue is one of cost of development, it is prioritizing features that are important to the current customers (you and me). I think rather than crowdfunding, COT should set up a survey where we can vote on importance of features, which should drive development prioritization for COT.

      Like you, we have been eagerly awaiting for Inline Editing feature since we purchased COT license in the first place. It feels to us like some features that are being released are not important for a LOB development tool, but we also understand that our needs are specific to our situation. That's why we think it would be great if COT got direct feedback from their customer who are ALREADY funding the development. They can even restrict the survey to the customers who have active license subscription to encourage more developers to renew a license :)
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  • I’m excited
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    more blog posts. I cannot wait for the release.
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  • We will be going live with the new update 8.5.12.0 in the next few days. Some new details are at http://community.codeontime.com/codeo....

    The features are not developed randomly. We are actively working on the ultimate goal of accomplishing the following:

    1) Native and Web apps.
    2) Transactional data input.
    3) Offline data input
    4) Live-in Project Designer + Drag & Drop GUI development - http://codeontime.com/blog/2017/01/an...
    5) SaaS integration.

    Bits and pieces of these are available in each release:

    1) The latest feature Identity Manager is directly from our prototypes of native apps - http://community.codeontime.com/codeo.... It is not possible to build mobile apps without it. The upcoming release also includes CORS handling to support native mobile apps.

    2) Data View fields are the core capability that will enable entering master records and associated child rows. Data view fields are tweaked in every release we make.

    Inline editing is mandatory when entering child rows. We will be redesigning the current implementation of grid/list/cards. Presently items are rendered as links in items ("a" element in "li" element). Links are making it difficult to edit inline. The inline editing is already in the product when it comes to editing of forms. The redesigned grid/list/cards presentation will have items without links and use inline editing of forms. Basically the entire form with its child records is just one big form in the new implementation. Early inline editing prototype is available in the Model Builder when you are working with the fields of the model. The new implementation of grid/card/lists will use hyper scrolling for natural scrolling of large and small data sets and have drawers to enable hierarchical display.

    3) Offline data input is based on transaction data input. We have already prototyped the code to include child data views when the master record is selected from the database. The client-side library already knows how to read "embedded" child data. This server-side code will be included the framework along with (2).

    4) The new GUI of Touch UI uses modal forms. This will be available in the release 8.5.12.0. The new Touch UI also has a new "right" sidebar. Project Designer will "live" in this area of the app when activated. The hierarchy of the project elements will be automatically synchronized with the current application page and active content. Basically we are building "live" editing of applications. We will be selling Code On Time, Cloud On Time, and Cloud On Time Private Edition. The front end is exactly the same for all three products.

    5) Web Site Factory and Web App Factory projects can now be integrated into SharePoint Online and Google Apps. We have releases a SharePoint Add-in in Office store at https://store.office.com/en-us/app.as.... The next release 8.5.13.0 will also bring about SharePoint Online blob adapter and Google Drive blob adapter. Sometime in the future we will build data controllers directly from SharePoint Lists.

    Whether you like it or not, any app created with Unlimited edition can be integrated into SharePoint online or Google Apps. There is no code to write, just follow a few configuration procedures.

    P.S. Release 8.5.12.0 is imminent. The next release 8.5.13.0 will bring about native apps.

    P.S.S. One variation of "modal" pages is called "split view". This will be a huge feature for various "workflow" scenarios in business apps.

    • Great info, thank you for that! You guys produce a lot of work in a relatively short time frame, but you don't get enough credit on community forums because the time line that you have established is not met. Managing expectations is a big part of our business too, its not easy...

      The features in the upcoming releases and long term vision for COT are great, we are very excited.

      But, our problem is with short term, incremental updates/fixes. This is why I have suggested that you solicit feedback from your current user base, to help prioritize features based on what your paying customers need. For example, in our organization, we would prefer to have better options for data layout in grids/lists instead of native apps, offline input or any of the other features (except modal forms) in version 8.5.12. This is a big pain point for us with COT. It doesn't hurt to solicit this kind of feedback in a more structured way than Community Forums, you will either confirm that your current trajectory is on the money or will learn that your customers value a different approach better.
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  • We are finalizing a collection of videos at http://youtube.com/codeontime to go with the release.

    The moment of the release is rapidly approaching.
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